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Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:40:00 -
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So, as a lowsec builder, what I'm getting is that I have to either run around picking up ore, or give part of my margin to some ******* who's willing to compress it for me. Also, I need a tower in lowsec to keep up with the joneses. Also, anybody who builds in sov null and jumps the finished product to low can crush me.
I'm not going to threaten to leave the game or anything, but if you're going to **** my livelihood from three directions at once you could at least not be all condescending about how nobody has anything to worry about. |
Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:00:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Ispia Jaydrath wrote:So, as a lowsec builder stop being a lowsec builder?
That would fix the margins and eliminate the need for a reprocessing tower, but multiply the amount of work I have to do. Being ****** from two directions instead of three isn't that much of an improvement. |
Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
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Posted - 2014.03.22 07:08:00 -
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Keltin wrote:Refine Rates20% not even close the refine value before and after, the after value with perfect refine is 28% of what it was previously. That's an 72% nerf for high-sec mining. Where are people getting this "20%" this "risk vs reward" is not even a factor in this large of a nerf. Look at the actual numbers.
Wow. Forget the devblog, you didn't even read the link you used to try to prove your point.
Look at the batch size. |
Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:56:00 -
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TJ Grimes wrote:Seen two posts quoting my questions and thoughts, but they also quote the first response to my questions and thoughts, so I guess they aren't directed at me? Hard to tell when someone quotes two seperate posts, so I'll ask again.
Is CCP making the assumption that people mine in high security space to sell minerals and ore?
It seems that way as they are offering the easier ore compression methods to "hi-sec" players to make up for their lower yield, allowing them to sell this compressed ore and in turn make no real dent on ISK income.
But I love the idea of collecting various materials in "hi-sec" and then turning them into the end products be it modules or ships, I'm even collecting "hi-sec" gas to one day turn into synth boosters when I have the means to do so in "low-sec".
But these changes seem to tell me that if I want to be self sufficent and mine ore, reprocess and then build things to sell, by doing it in "hi-sec" I'm going to potentially make a loss due to my low reprocessing yield, either that or my profit won't be as high as a "low-sec" players ships and modules. I could charge slightly more to make up for the larger quantity of ore needed but then I'll just be pricing myself out of the market.
Will my only option be to start selling ore in compressed form?
The volume of stuff that highsec markets move is huge. In order for them to be influenced in a meaningful way by the changes there would have to be a large number of people willing to put in a mind-numbing amount of work in order to get ore out to null, build stuff, and then take the completed products back to highsec. The margins do look reasonable, and I'm not saying some people don't do it, but it will be an exercise in boredom and frustration. There aren't a lot of people who love isk enough to put up with those working conditions.
The amount of ore you have to mine in order to build something won't change. Neither will the isk per hour you make mining. |
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